Topic: Lotus are finally moving forward. (Read 426 times)

Satan · « **on:** February 07, 2010, 01:34:20 PM »

Seems things are finally getting going over in Malaysia for Lotus.
Glad to hear another of the new teams is a step closer to making the grid.


BBC Sport - F1 - Successful start for Lotus' new Cosworth V8 engine

Ferrari F1 Forum · « **on:** February 07, 2010, 01:34:20 PM »

Corn Flakes · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2010, 01:38:39 PM »

That Cosworth, from what I am hearing, sounds fantastic

Even better considering it will be in the Lotus next season

f2005 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2010, 01:40:29 PM »

One step closer... However, will they last the distance of a season

Corn Flakes · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2010, 01:41:32 PM »

They got Malaysia on their side... I think they can handle it

kojikabuto · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2010, 01:45:10 PM »

i am very glad of lotus coming back, its a name it has to be in F1
no matter if its a revamped one..now bring on Lola!

_GOGGS_ · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2010, 04:48:32 PM »

I'm happy to see the new teams making progress.
I wonder how this works, cosworth is not really subject to the engine modification ban is it? I mean from here on in, does it mean they can no longer make changes or is it open still for change?

Satan · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2010, 06:43:51 PM »

I would imagine they would have had to submit final plans before the new year. Now that an engine has been built and started I can't imagine them being allowed to change it so close a season. Although funnier things have happened.

Hall_Green_Wolf · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2010, 09:14:14 PM »

Quote from: kojikabuto on February 07, 2010, 01:45:10 PM

i am very glad of lotus coming back, its a name it has to be in F1
no matter if its a revamped one..now bring on Lola!

Its still the same old geezers in Norwich pulling the strings. I have done a few lotus jobs the last couple of months and its still the old school.

kojikabuto · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2010, 09:22:19 PM »

thanks hall
good to know

in fact i woudnt mind to purchase an Evora in the future

Hall_Green_Wolf · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2010, 10:55:46 PM »

It is good news you are right mate. Lotus had to branch out to survive (unfortunatley) but their roots remain intact.

Industry is a funny world. It was cheaper for lotus to do away with amazing skilled prototype centres like the one they had in coventry and send the work outside at a more expensive rate, its all wooden money in house you see. But its still the same guys calling the shots at least.

cat1 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2010, 11:30:23 PM »

Quote from: f2005 on February 07, 2010, 01:40:29 PM

One step closer... However, will they last the distance of a season

As long as they make it to Australia ... then its all good

Corn Flakes · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2010, 06:19:24 AM »

If they make it to Australia, alright... just if the can make if back and around the whole of Europe... $:-\$

f2005 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2010, 12:21:19 AM »

Hopefully their season does not end after Aussie...I wonder if they have ambitious goals like BMW had

cat1 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 09, 2010, 02:58:46 AM »

They would be pretty screwed if their season finishes after the Aus GP, considering the weekend after is the Malaysian GP.

Corn Flakes · « **Reply #14 on:** February 09, 2010, 06:22:58 AM »

Quote from: f2005 on February 09, 2010, 12:21:19 AM

Hopefully their season does not end after Aussie...I wonder if they have ambitious goals like BMW had

I recall Robert saying that BMW had next to no ambitious about trying to win in 2008 and improving the car in 2009. He thought 2008 was their best chance, but instead, they stopped development and went on to try their hand in 2009, where again they failed.

f2005 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 09, 2010, 07:52:46 AM »

BMW had some kind of target to win races after a certain number of seasons then challenge for the title,too? Didn't they?

cat1 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 09, 2010, 08:39:27 AM »

Sorta and CF was sort of right as well.

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"In 2006 we exceeded our own targets," said BMW's Dr Mario Thiessen. "Now expectations are rising faster than the team can develop. Thats the punishment for excelling yourself. Two thousand and seven marks the second and final year of our development phase. Our aim is to make it onto the podium on our own merit. If the leading teams show any sign of weakness, we want to be ready to breach the gap. Victories on our own merit are not yet a realistic prospect for 2007. We are aiming for that in 2008. In 2009 we want to be in contention for the World Championship title.

I can't believe I spent 10 minutes googling that

I need some sleep

f2005 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 09, 2010, 08:57:28 AM »

Hurrah... cat

One good technical contribution.... even if it was not your own lol

cat1 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2010, 09:00:22 AM »

Do not force me to tell you to bugger off again

Corn Flakes · « **Reply #19 on:** February 09, 2010, 10:23:46 AM »

It just seems weird to me, that they did better than they expected in 2006 and it showed towards the end of the season. Then in 2007, they were the 3rd force in F1 and after they were happy with what they achieved, they stopped development of the F1.07 and concentrated for 2008. Fair enough. But, after Kubica managed a race win, they stopped a lot of the development of their car and then turned to help Nick Heidfeld with his Qualifying dramas and to focus on 2009.

What I am saying is, and Kubica is most likely asking himself the same thing, Why didn't BMW Sauber go the the titles in 2008, in a car they knew was capable of winning it?

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